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opinion needed:
I was researching this site that my interviewer pointed out to me called http://www.themarsrecords.com where you can download 2 free e-books, and besides all the similarities in my story and other peoples stories from http://www.projectcamelot.org and others as well, the one thing that I wanted to bring to this communities attention is that mr. and mrs. relfe (authors) describe meeting with pleidians but unfortunately from what I have read, it is too vague as to what role they may have played, I am up to page 121, so far, pretty wild so far, alot of "buzz" words in there.

what do you think about this mars story and what the pleidians may have to do with it.


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Dear Plejarens,

I did a bit more research and I guess my question at this point (since the plejarens do mention the mars projects) is, was the mars people looking to attack the plejarens or befriend them to gain knowledge, or perhaps they had a relationship and it went sour. it does seem the pleyjarens are trying to hint something but I am not sure if I can grip it yet. I am really confused now, perhaps due to lack of knowledge, but one thing I know is I am still willing to welcome any contact, I would simply hope I am not lied to by the evil if I was contacted. but I ask you plejarens, because I know your watching.

 

I need something, anything at this point, I am tired of questioning my sanity, please make me feel sane.


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g'day someguy

 

Although I don't profess to be the plejarens you desperately want to speak to, In my hope that your sanity does not turn into insanity by not putting you out of your miserable state of mind from you having to wait unto eternity, I gather my intervention with some logical reasoning will allay some of the burden caused by your undue preposterous expectation.

 

The plejarens only contact billy in the face to face and telepathic manner and unequivocally, no one on earth for very good reasons

try http://www.gaiaguys.net/meier.htm for the reasons why.

 

Sorry but they don't contact any other human beings

 

Not until at such time that we have progressed far enough in our spirituality and extirpated the effect of our cursed 'original sin' (genetic manipulation done unto us by the creator overlords from ancient times to turn us into entities of aggressive barbarism to protect them from aggressive attacks by foreigners) would they then contact us officially but in the mean time they are trying very hard through billy to spread the teachings of truth and about Creation so that we find our way towards becoming true human beings.

 

This will happen around 700 years into the future when contact with them will be established.

In the mean time we have to work very diligently on ourselves to gear our whole being, the way we feel, our actions and our thoughts conforming with spiritual principles whilst eliminating the false and wrong characteristics we have built up over many ensuing generations who've done no better than pass on the degenerate characteristcs onto subsequent progeny.

 

We are suffering therefore from our own stupidity, ignorance, addictions and from our false way of living our lives with false ideals that brings cruel and harsh judgement upon ourselves through our own folly and irrationalities.

One example of this is the materialistic ways that we judge another person, if they aren't in what we assume as notable positions in society, we tend to look down on them like many people do to toilet cleaners or street cleaners. This then brings all kinds of problems of people feeling less confident and less worthy about themselves if they don't measure up to societal standards therefore some commit suicide whilst others rob a bank or kill another and steal from them, of course all these bad manifestation is the symtoms of human irrationality.

 

 

There are more examples of why spiritual values are just so important in our lives which often is very difficult to follow especially when there is easier and more convenient ways to live but I am sure you get the meaning

 

hope it helps rather than confusing you more

 

cheers

Matt

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that was a great response matt, thanks for the link, I agree, we need to be more spiritual, I am not expecting them to respond to what I say, would be nice, I obviously try not to look down on anyone these days and I like to think my being here is a testament to that. I have trouble initially trusting anyone I guess, 700 years certainly seems like a long time, I am wondering why, is it because they feel threatened? I will read the site you linked up and get back to you.

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Love is the essence of faith in my humble opinion.  The Pleyaren are asking us to be spiritual and exercise 'faith' with them, in them, and join with them then in praying and meditating for the Earth, as even Billy has done and suggested.  Since we are spiritual beings and as Semjase has stated, that spiritual telepathy is universal in distances, we are reminded that humility is a way of life for them and for us.  But remember ladies and gentlemen that love is the thing that binds us to the universe and behind it was and always will be the intentions of their messages, the true meaning of contacts that we dare not say we intend to want to have, but have faith that when we feel the intent of the universe we are feeling a living connection with all of it, hence seven levels, our own spiritual, mental evolutions as well.  They say we are intending ourselves every step of the way, so that time and our fate is an open on, not a closed loop, but with probable outcomes and possiblilities.  I like to believe in possibilities so I don't lose faith in the mission then to call it that for once and I believe in a deep connection with them as well, said for once as well.  We are just beginning to learn and walk this walk, and in the end their will be worlds upon worlds for us to think about, it already is we just haven't learnt that yet...

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G'day someguy

 

Well I am, like everybody else who has discovered Billy's case are encouraged by the beautiful quartet of symphonic sounds that resonate hope when I hear genuine case of people such as yourself who is a new comer to the discover of truth, sincerely expressing their new found interest of this paradise.

 

I sincerely hope that your journey of discover to this remarkable state of affair unwavering and continue throughout your life.

 

Happy studying

 

 

 

Hi Captain

 

Yes I sincerely agree with you Captain that ultimately love is the answer.

But the knowledge of what genuine love is cannot grow from ignorance and frankly our understanding of what true love is is quite incomplete and often misguided.

Many people bandy about the name love and peace yet seldom is it true that these people really understand what love and peace really means.

The love that we terrestrials know is so conditional and fickle, it's there one moment and gone the next.

Only by understanding the truth of Creation, it's laws and our assimilation of the spiritual realities of existence and all that pervades this infinite space we call the universe can we then truly achieve genuine love within us.

How can we expect a blind man to see if he has no avenues and the tools to see, it can only happen once his eyes are either fixed or he grows a new one.

I am sure you understand my figurative mataphor here with this example Captain.

 

So essentially the journey of discovering this uncharted territory continues, it's the only way that we'll be able to find the missing pieces to this gigantic jigsaw puzzle and find a way to put the pieces together in the right place, can we humans then becoming ever more closer to becoming a genuine human being from the beasts that we currently are.

 

 

 

Cheers

Matt

 

 



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Yes sir, and I agree, back to the meditations and prayers for a lost but very compicated world.  Yes love is a very mysterious quantity, really almost a vow of sorts, not to turn your back on it, them, the world, our fellow man, the universe if you will.  Seeing that love in action is sometimes the humility of gauging our intentions, actions and emotions.  The reason love is so hard to understand is that our emotions can run high, and in a world that really is very immature in matters of celestial laws and peoples and their messages to us, it makes everyone look a little aggressive and held within themselves, those plugged up fools out there where we came from, and are learning that the energy to talk and see the possibilities takes a personal power that is gained only through actions.  The updated creation laws from Billy are really easy to follow, there isn't a great burden to us in this church of beliefs if you want to call the assemblage that.  The reason it both is and isn't a church (and look even scientology is a church) is that we all follow and try to expound upon Creation Laws, the nature of the cosmos and of course unbundling the reincarnic nature of ourselves and what we mean in this immensity.  For me it has been hard at times, knowing that this personality ends at death and doesn't occur again the same way, but the exciting part I found in balancing some of the terror of these things is to look at the spirit behind it that doesn't change, and that is a challenge to us that they do not share the same way.  It doesn't make us worse than them, but it makes it hard for us not to have the social quotient to enter life again and again and have the same consistent beliefs.  That is one of the biggest stumbling blocks to mankind.  It would be very easy for us to act like what we really are if the rest of society recognized that we live again and again and want our society to catch up so we have an easier, really an educated chance to have a chance.  Time will tell, and even without the actual education of the society around us, I meet people who do believe in these things, women especially, and there have more than one close encounter, because the depth of meeting people with that depth really warms a person immensely and even with the pleyaren for me that is the same fear and thankfully the same fate.  To fall in love with them and this complete knowledge and share this journey of life with others, hopefully laying ground for doing a very wierd maneuver.  Looking to the future life already the next one as an occurrence that is already happening (because it is inevitable) and contacting that medium of thought then if that is all that it the medium is, is the counter revolution to the mere but more numinous technological one that will always be happening as well then, in parallel.

 

Ok the Mars Records, I still have a hard time believing in this, but the people seem real enough.  I disagree then if they are exploiting something from someone.  We are all told to beware on this forum, there is so much nonsense and really debauchery of story, that people can be very sincere and be sincerely wrong as well.  It or that sincere wrongness has happened again and again, from Betty and Barney Hill to our understanding of the first UFO's on film.  I downloaded the books and will try some type of analysis further, just to say it was done proper then.

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dear newinitiation, thank you for your kind words, discovering the truth is quite a roller coaster, I do realize I need to realize my own truth, "know thyself", I know this is as important, if not more than any other truth, cheers indeed my friend.

captain, I eagerly await your analysis, what I point out is that, my story has similar descriptions to what is described by those other story tellers, started out with serpo describing elements I described prior to its release, then I find people from projectcamalot.org with similarities and now the mars records, and I am sure I will come across more, but, when I see pleidians mentioned in the mars records, I am interested when the connection is pointed out to me or I discover, he mentions them a couple of times and I myself describe something that is a clear vision in my mind about seeking out the pliedians myself, I think it was near like a rest area near billy's home, there was a large open field and the pliedians landed in a wide open place in a valley, and the land not to far from a small building, or even trailer with a long wooden ramp )instead of steps) leading up to a door, perhaps bathrooms or a rest area, and I vision another craft coming along and landing next to them seeking contact with them, now this is a clear vision for me, as I said the building was blue or grey and the weather was somewhat warm and I onlly get as far as seeing myself there and one of the males, perhaps a youger one, thats about all I see in my minds eye right now. but I saw in my head just from the mention of the name billy meier, I learned after, actually I started learning the day I joined this forum. I am simply putting what I see in my mind here. I want the truth myself.

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hey matt, thanks for the great link I finally found a copy of at least one book to read and a bunch of other good info, I am reading through alot of it, very interesting, I especially like the part about the mother ship or archs that are independant , sounds like floating cities, I like that. alot of other things are coming clear about the pliedians for me too.

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G'day someguy

 

Good on you someguy

There is no power like personal initiative

Another good read is the samjase introduction to spiritual teachings you can find either at www gaiaguys.net/meier.htm or http://www.figu.org or http://www.theyfly.com.

 

Happy studying and be patient, it'll take some time but the more effort you put into it the greater the reward

 

cheers

Matt

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G'day someguy

 

Good on you someguy

There is no power like personal initiative

Another good read is the samjase introduction to spiritual teachings you can find either at www gaiaguys.net/meier.htm or http://www.figu.org or http://www.theyfly.com.

 

Happy studying and be patient, it'll take some time but the more effort you put into it the greater the reward

 

cheers

Matt

Hello Matt, I have almost completed reading contact from the pleiades and I plan on reading pretty much that entire gaiaguys.net site. finding truth is not easy but it does keep one busy, although I have taken the initiative to research, it can be troublesome when my wife and kids want my attention and I am interuppted from researching but I must live the best I can. I feel the connection between mars and pleiadiens is becoming clearer, I do not think they are working together but they are aware of each other. I also feel that other human forms are not much more intelligent than we are, they seem to make easy mistakes and the technology takes some of the hard work away from them and when it comes to thinking. I am starting to think they are more advanced than we are simply because they have the technology, not the tech that makes them smarter, but the tech that makes life easier, so when we think of doing things the hard way, they have a device that makes it easy, I also still feel strongly they did not create a time travel device, perhaps it was gifted to them, who knows.

 

I must admit again, I like the thought of independant societies on huge mother ships, that makes sense indeed to me.


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