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Barbarotico

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An accidental death is one thing and a murder is another thing.

 

If a killer rape and kill your daughter you will think different.

No body take action until they become victims. For this reason this world is filed with crime and violence.

 

The only way to fix this world is a massive extermination of degenerated criminals and a world wide birth control.

 

All what i need is that the government unleash my hands and give public access to the criminal record of all peoples to begin to kill criminals.

 

If United States can't do a massive extermination of criminals with the regular army, he can create paramilitary groups to do that work.

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Is perfectly natural to kill the degenerated ones to help the good ones.

 

Is the right of every citizen to kill criminals and not be pursued by the government.

 

I HAVE RIGHT TO KILL CRIMINALS AND TO NOT BE PURSUED BY THE GOVERNMENT.

 

 

Barbarotico, I sincerely advise you to go seek getting some pyschological help to rectify that problem of yours which relates to why you hold a barbaric belief that certain criminal crimes even if it isn't murder should be put to death. I'm not suggesting that you would do what I'm about to say but I think that if some person commited a serious crime to you one day, that you appear to me like you could be the type of person that could respond back to them by murdering them if you felt the crime they did to you was serious enough because you seem like someone who could suddenly become enraged in the right type of situation and hold a lot of hatred towards whoever commited a serious crime to you and also because you hold that primitive barbaric belief that it should be every citizens legal right to kill criminals if the criminal committed a certain type of crime on citizens.

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Barbarotico, I will continue to delete your e-mails if you don't start writing in normal sentence case format. Like I said, an occasional emphatic phrase or "shout" is justified, but that's it. This is a final warning.


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Barbarotico

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When a society gives rights to criminals that is the begining of it's autodestruction.

 

I have rights to kill degenerated criminals and to not be pursued by the government. I support the government with my taxes, the criminals only suck money from the government, the government must suport the good peoples and give them the right to kill criminals because the government exist because of the taxes that they pay.

 

The firearms are not the problem of this society, the criminals are the problem.

All good people must have assault weapons to defend their families from the bad peoples.

 

 

human rights are for humans, not for criminals.

Barbarotico

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The solution is to eliminate the criminals with a massive extermination.

1. To permit the public access of good peoples to the criminal reccord to know who is who.

 

2. To make a system of categorization of criminals like the color code of terrorism that have Home Land Security.

Blue=good.

green=misdemeanor.

yellow=is a criminal of midle level.

orange= a bad criminal.

red= degenerated criminal.

 

As some folk fall in the code of color during his/her criminal's career, he will have less rights in the society. When he fall in the orange or red color, then every body can kill him and to have inmunity.

 

No body will change my ideals. Is my right to kill criminals and to not be puesued by the governmen. I pay the taxes for that.

phil

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Barbarotico, what about all the criminals in the world who honestly regretted their crimes and when they got out of jail they changed their ways and became good people? They do good things for society like going around to juvenile delinquint homes and spending time talking to troublesome juveniles and helping them out so they don't end up in jail after making the same mistakes that they made. Not all criminals are bad people that they cannot change back to being good people after doing their time. Quite a few criminals do end up deciding that they want to become good people once they've done their time and after getting out of jail quite a few of them do end up becoming good lawbiding citizens. So it would be wrong for society or for anyone to put all criminals in the same basket (no hope bad people basket) and its also wrong for anyone to suggest that they are all just bad news for society that they should all die either.

 

phil

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Barbarotico, what about all the criminals in the world who honestly regretted their crimes and when they got out of jail they changed their ways and became good people? They do good things for society like going around to juvenile delinquent homes and spending time talking to troublesome juveniles and helping them out so they don't end up in jail after making the same mistakes that they made. Not all criminals are bad people that they cannot change back to being good people after doing their time. Quite a few criminals do end up deciding that they want to become good people once they've done their time and after getting out of jail quite a few of them do end up becoming good law biding citizens. So it would be wrong for society or for anyone to put all criminals in the same basket (no hope bad people basket) and its also wrong for anyone to suggest that they are all just bad news for society that they should all die either.

 

phil

 

I don't care, if a criminal kill a member of my family or rape somebody from my family I have the right to kill him, even if he change. that is not my problem, my problem is to kill him and that the government don't pursue me.

 

When the damage is done there is not return. Every rational peoples here must know that exist some frontiers of not return between the aggressors and the victims.

 

The life forms come here to learn. When an artificial law's system interfere between the natural relations between two life forms that is contra-natural.

 

If a less evolved life form becomes a criminal and commit a crime against other life-form, then is his right to commit hes crime, but is the right of the other life from to kill him if he is unable to forgive his error.

 

For that purpose they are here, to learn in this way.

 

The government with his artificial laws only interfere in that process of learning.



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Do you not think that this is a cyclical argument.  If you kill my brother who raped your sister, and if that person who already has a violent upbringing, has a brother (or sister even, hey people lie and that creates further complications) don't you think that I will not try to kill you, or someone else close to me a friend perhaps and if you flee away, not someone else in your family.  That is what happens in the vindetta environment, and gang-land violence, so get real, and there is no end to amount of play can be given to it.  Also, one last thing, that environment may even create the interplay, hence the Pleyaren message not to start even that argument.

 

Over and Out



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Barbarotico,

 

On all of the planets inhabited by the Pleyaren, the severest penalty is complete banishment to very remote island or a remote, or selected planet.  The sexes are banished separately, and are left with manual labor only, no technology, nor even manufacturing to help them in their work and lifetime term.  It is further provided that no contact is allowed with any outside people or life forms.  As Semjase also said about this about it directly (pg 30 And still they fly!) “This form of punishment guarantees the greatest possible security for the maintenance of order.  On the other hand, the guilty do not become a burden to the populace.  This form of punishment is very humane and useful because the guilty are not inhibited in their development during their life-long banishment.  In primeval times, various criminal life forms from diverse worlds in the universe were banished in this manner to your earth (mine – Earth), including some of our own race as well.  These early times, though, are also inconceivable to us because we have not accurate data on them.”

 

Further more, and this is most very important, if we kill those who kill, they will again reincarnate as bad as they left.  This was a mystery to me as well, for one would think that if there was the God concept in creation, then one would not be allowed to come back evil once again.  But this is not stated, but exactly the opposite.  So what you are advising is not a cure, but worse.  The authors (Billy primarily) further state, “Since our terrorists and other criminals do not fear in the slightest of torture or the death penalty, it would have greater meaning to be objective and to use effective measures somewhat similar to the form of correction common among the extraterrestrials.”

 

Roger

 

Over and Out

 

 

Barbarotico

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Come to the reality, in an overpopulated world like this and with a very high rate of crime is impossible to banish somebody. we not have thousands of criminals, we have millions of them that qualify for a banishment.

 

What country or island do you will use for that?

Who will custody the island to prevent them to escape?

How much money will cost the security and surveillance of the island?

phil

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barbarotico

I don't care, if a criminal kill a member of my family or rape somebody from my family I have the right to kill him, even if he change. that is not my problem, my problem is to kill him and that the government don't pursue me.

 

When the damage is done there is not return. Every rational peoples here must know that exist some frontiers of not return between the aggressors and the victims.

 

The life forms come here to learn. When an artificial law's system interfere between the natural relations between two life forms that is contra-natural.

 

If a less evolved life form becomes a criminal and commit a crime against other life-form, then is his right to commit hes crime, but is the right of the other life from to kill him if he is unable to forgive his error.

 

For that purpose they are here, to learn in this way.

 

The government with his artificial laws only interfere in that process of learning.

 

But the governments of the world have some of the biggest corrupt criminals operating in them. They commit murder on thier common people as well as all types of other crimes on them too, all the time.

 

phil

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