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faroutinalaska

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Is there a Mary Magdalene type person in association with Jmmanuel? Do the Plejarans speak of the denigration of womens'energies, specialties, glories and unique contributions as spoken of in the DaVinci Code? Diane
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Is there a Mary Magdalene type person in association with Jmmanuel? Do the Plejarans speak of the denigration of womens'energies, specialties, glories and unique contributions as spoken of in the DaVinci Code? Diane

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hello Diane

in the Talmud of Jmmanuel it is said that Jmmanuel married when he was 45 with young pretty woman, had many children, and settled in Srinagar, India

it says nothing about Mary Magdalene,it only mentions his mother, his brother Thomas, and his disciple Judas following him in his travel to India (after the crucifiction)

i have not read the Da Vinci Code (which is a book of fiction) (and im not interested), but here and there i have heard that it has to do with "El priorato de Sión" (in spanish) or something about Sión, in the Talmud, Jmmanuel says that he has nothing to do with the "Sons and daughters of Zion" (in fact they wanted to kill him), and that he has nothing to do with the secret asociation of "The Essenes" (they recognized that he was wiser than them and wanted Jmmanuel to teach them, but he didn´t agreed because he knew that they would distort the truth)

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about the other question . . ., since i have not read the da vinci code, i dont know what you are talking about, but if you could briefly explain those things then maybe something can be done

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Thank you 00. [Dan Brown tucks a lot of true info into his books but tweeks it some so he doesn't get killed--as I see it] In the accepted scriptures women are seen as either too "holy" such as "virgin Mary" or as wicked. The Nicene convocation in 300 or so A.D. got rid of any scriptures of positive and strong woman images, leaving women condemned as "Eve", etc. The priesthood was made celibate and spritual women were hidden away as nuns covered in black. [The Muslims in burkas] The Casars in France had an equality between men and women leaders and I think that was one of the main reasons they were so cruely wiped out. Then there were the witchhunts, removing women who were healers. It's related to the left brain, linear mentality. The denigration of intuition and sensitivity. It seems to be culminating now in the warring nature being expressed by corporation men and our government warmongers and the destruction of nature. In my mind I even relate this to our cultures apparent need to wipe out native cultures in north and south america since we arrived on these shores. So, I was thinking that I read in the Davinci Code that The Teacher we have called "Jesus" was wed to a rich, equally spiritually prepared Mary from Magdala and that they had children and that Mary went to S. France with daughter Sara and "Jesus" went to India lived to old age and possibly Joseph of Arimathea took Jesus son to Britain. All to protect the royal heirs and the bloodline. [It's too bad so much of the Jmmanuel material was lost when the translator was killed] I also think that the "womens' movement" only frees women to be left brained but not their true best selves. See? Diane


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hello again diane

i hope you are doing fine

yes, women have been denigrated and exploited for thousands of years, this will change slowly but surely and some time in the future there will be true peace and harmony

(according to plejarens , when males consider themselves to be better than females this indicates that a race is still primitive, each gender has his own characteristics and for example females are better in the field of communication, and because of this most of plejarens pilots are females)

yes, Billy and the plejarens have talked about this, and about how around the world and even today in the "first world" countries, millions of women and children are used as sexual slaves among many other horrible things

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The celibacy among christian priests its based in the distortion of some lines of the real teachings of Jmmanuel

when some disciples asked him about marriage and celibacy

he said that not every one must marry and that some persons do not marry for the sake of spiritual strength (if you read a bible then you will find that they changed this for something like: some persons renounced to this to reach the Kingdom of Heaven or some similar garbage)

(he travelled to India before the crucifiction too, and as it is known to many persons some monks and hermits are very wise men too, i think he has refering to them, with the difference that buddhist monks and others CAN marry and have children if they want, but it is common that they don´t)

(its supposed too that when studying the spiritual teachings it is a healthy thing to NOT have sex (but it is not obligatory), since plejarens have an average life span of 1000 years and since it is a well known fact that our first years are in the ones that we learn faster and more easily they dedicate their first 70 years to the spiritual teachings and are not allowed to marry until them)

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if Jmmanuel had another woman and had children with her is something that i ignore, but poligamy is something that is allowed by the laws of nature (not like muslims and others practice it),

but it can be simply another lie

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yes, its supposed that Jmmanuel travelled to Europe, and some even say that he visited America too . . .

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No, I can't imagine poligamy and I can certainly see sex as a distraction but this goes deeper into a denial of the inner balance between maleness and femaleness in all men and women. There's such intriguing stuff regarding the templars building Chartres Cathedral and Notre Dame and others in honor of the Magdalene, being later changed to honor the "virgin Mary". There are all these perhaps coded stories in myth and fairie stories regarding preserving the royal blood==sangraal==holy grail. There's even the Stewart's claim to be the legitimate heirs to the British throne through this bloodline. There's the possibility that Jesus/jmmanuel studied in the Druid colleges in Europe as well as in India. The point remains that we have had our spiritual history stolen from us with an unholy determination that seems to be based on a fear of women and their ability to concieve children. It became necessary to produce a male god, the exclusive male priest/minister and on to male dominated fields of every sort with token left-brain women sprinkled around. Diane


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hi again Diane

about poligamy, i know it can be difficult to understand, but with time things will take its natural course and your opinion and my opinion will become unimportant, only the laws of creation which are eternal will remain

i know that this can lead to an endless discussion which is something that i dont want, so i will only say that: in every human being there is a spirit that is inmortal, and that is in perfect balance, it is not positive or negative, it is not femenine or masculine, this spirit is your true self, and to evolve will reincarnate millions of times in different bodies, sometimes it will be male and sometimes it will be female, to experience and learn different things

with time human beings of earth will learn to live according to mother nature´s laws and will accept things as they are, it will take centuries or maybe even thousands of years, i don´t know, i only know it is unavoidable

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about the things that you say about the supposed Jmmanuel´s daughter, i don´t know, i have heard all those stories before but i ignore if there is any truth in them, i only know that the only way to find the truth about something is searching, so search and search until you find if it is something important for you, but maybe in the middle of the road you will discover that there are more important things in this life and that those things are closer to you than your own breath

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Platitudes. "Mother Nature" is the basic problem to the controllers. It deserves our attention that every effort is being directed toward breaking down EVERYTHING into component parts and then synthesizing creation and patenting the result. Take the willow bark tea used by native people for mild pain--take the salycylic acid, synthesize and voila, aspirin. [only aspirin causes stomach bleeding, the herb doesn't] Take birth away from the midwives in favor of male "doctors", kill women for 100 years because you don't wash your hands, put people into sterile looking, staph and worse infected hospitals, fight natural healing every which way, call it quackery, blind people to the espensive death you deal, bow down to the "doctor"--another area under CONTROL. Government, education, farming; poisen the food supply slowly but surely, spray poisens over the cities, dull and destroy the people with flouride, infiltrate organizations seeking truth and create overkill, and on and on. I think we need to look hard at how an attempt is being waged to destroy CREATION. Jmmanuel said to honor creation in ourselves and in the world. Truthseekers should have an awareness of the attack being all around us--wherever we look. If your right brain, intuitive, nurturant thinking has been destroyed or atrophied, can you even realize the trap you are being led into? The controllers must control everything right down to "thought crimes". A big jump was putting all religions into the male control box. I would like to know more about Jmmanuel and Plejaren teaching on this central issue as the result of centuries of this process to the doom of humanity and nature. Diane
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