Your site looks interesting and very forward, and so what do you think of the Pleyaren message and the Billy Meier material then. You obviously believe in the ET/UFO phenomenon, and like myself you have had contact(s). How do you feel about your contactors, and how has it changed your life. Do you feel afraid, clued in, confused or somewhere in-between. You also have quite a bit of output on your site. Anything further?
I think the pleyaren message is very interesting and I am researching it further to have a more educated opinion, I have heard alot about billy briefly from friends but never heard the whole story for myself, I need to buy the book or download it somehow.
I do believe in the ET/UFO phenomenon quite a bit and I also believe I was contacted by time travelers from the future, not just ET.
I feel the contactors did what they had to do, these days, me taken sort of against my will, where my fear was present, had to happen like that due to my past belief structure and programming (from media). I guess I feel they were very patient with me, especially since these days I think my story is far from over.
I did feel afraid for about 8 years (1997-2004), I had trouble sleeping, thinking "they" were coming to get me when I slept, so I drank myself to sleep for a couple of years, these days, I would welcome any contact, the fear would show itself initially but it would also subside much quicker than in the past.
has my experience changed my life?, I think it has but more recently since early 2005, it has changed my belief system, I question everything, I no longer believe in religion because I think it is a scam to control masses of people.
the thing I find conflict with in my research is there is not enough mention of time travel, and to me, space and time travel go hand and hand.
I think semjase is very pretty and I hope she found her husband.
I respect billy meier very much for all he has endured in the past, especially when the internet did not exist for us, I think they (the pledians) knew the internet was coming though.
I feel like my story as well as billy's and other people, are puzzle pieces that will form the big picture in the not so distant future.
never met the man but I feel like I know him, for example, I have not read anymore than what is on the site and I have a vision that there is one situation where he is contacted or meets with pledians and another craft comes along and lands next to thier craft (in a valley with lots of green and moutains in the background) near a small building that may have been blue or grey and that is the kind of things I think of, when I think of billy meier, I guess I am saying I may have met him once myself under those circumstances. I guess its a time travel thing.
on my site I made a list and billy is on that list, (I did not call them pledian cohorts, that was a forum member, I copied and pasted the responses into the list)
anyway, please keep the questions coming.
Thanks and nice to meet you.
captain, in further response to the contact question you addressed me with, I do not believe I am being contacted regularly by any ET, maybe in the future, but I do think in my past, is indirect visits by time travelers and not completely ET although time travelers are space travelers, I just finished reading "424th Contact, Saturday, June 17th 2006, 5:03 pm" on the FIGU sight and there is a couple of things I want to address. first off, the fact that they admit they were decieved by people who claimed to be contacted and had to investigate it and did not embrace the technology introduced to them to find this truth, raises questions of concern for me. they could not be that advanced if that is the case, maybe when it comes to space travel I guess they are advanced.
one outstanding thing in the article is the mention that earth humans are bio-robots or androids, now that jumped out at me because I have been saying we are robots for a long time and to read it for the first time today, blows me away.
I am having trouble understanding the pleiadians purpose, they seem like they want to help us somehow, not sure how, and why did they say they would not be present in the future for the next major events? why would they not join us in the true freedom we may achieve in the future?
where can I find info on how things work on their planet(s)?
I will keep researching the 3 billy meier related sites looking for these answers, but if someone knows this info on the fly, please post the links.
Sir, because I appreciate your honesty, and questioned my experience and so because my Captain Tuttle is coming to an end (it must also reincarnate or disappear for it is also a creation of time within time and writing is so hard without mistakes for sure without errors, and these are times of War or Revolution and every viewpoint is a terse opinion) and thank you for writing back and probably as much or more than anybody that writes to this site, though many do, but normally not repeatedly and many just post the initial thing and let it go at that, the internet is a powerful element to the psyche for sure, almost a nakedness at times posting personal material, and yes, perhaps the dreams of future events or enactments of body and I will address what you asked. It would seem that if we can get away from falling into the unequal state of god-like material, we are better off from mere sight seeing. As are your own Grey contacts (of them alone we assumed only, now defunct perhaps) which are like all others, contacts and the Eye (of remembrance?), but no person can channel what is the Truth, Earthling there, and our stories are like sorcery stories of bewilderment and truth and sometimes confusion at that contact scheme and the voices of contact. That voice as the book states is the hardest to identify, the source, along with our energy-body which reaches hundreds of feet almost exactly like the Pyramids for sure by nature. I see far more viewings than written opinions, almost a gross thing, and my own writing has improved just because of writing, and I certainly don't care if others writing is as accurate in English as mine is my native language. My own initial experiences were early on, in Ontario, two to be exact, the first one flew right over my head at only perhaps 100 ft and slowly and languidly just passed right over me, without a sound, colored lights and windows on that craft, unmistakable through the years that it wasn't terrestrial or human but very supernatural, syncrenistic to be sure throughout lifetimes and years, and physically within Canada in those years, a physical hot-bed for sure here. They were what I still believe to be either the Greys, or some other almost non-humanoid race, or as we though a very, very advanced race, peaceful only because the after effects didn't feel that way and that signature was like a time-capsule to me over years, and did open up, once I had enough personal power to reveal the lessons, only then completely by revisiting the experience and I admit with somewhat helpers (of psychic kind please, and the Plejaren state that it is called spiritual telepathy at vast distances) of such to comprehend the marks, but still more could always be known and it is kind of like a secret school I admit to the unknown of these experience or even those who do know like you and me and cannot translate our events. I had along with two others, both relatives, also only a few years later and only a few tens of miles from the same spot observe a huge ball of unflickering light land in a field just a half-mile from our place (again in Ontario, exactly, the first in a small village called Cumberland, the second in Wendover, on a farm along the way to Montreal), and these both in the 1970's, (first one almost exactly that year) set down, go out, then come back on and float along the horizon, within that half-mile only seeing with binoculars, sweetly about seven years later, nice number. My other relative, my own age, (the other was my brother-in-law) and saw it to, but beyond that this family has produced mentionable people to boot, artist, engineers and the like, I suspect more contacts, and Ptaah has even hinted at the same by the way that all contact types are chosen ones for evolution purposes, though some never know) was too scared to pick up his bicycle and come with me to see it, and as we were both visiting on a cousins' farm then, and he had to leave within the next few days, we didn't even have a chance to investigate the site together. I tried to do it, much later the next week or so (we worked the farm, had chores to do) but no tracks or other signs were evidenced, end of that experience (not quite there is always a note of something left undone) was unique and lasting as well as the effects, heightened awareness, and the sexuality (the energy-body turn on is true) were somewhat always disconcerting, the want for more and more then if you want, deeper and deeper I mean. I did have another experience with my own son in Manitoba in the year 1995 that was interesting. I was always the pragmatic person, knowing that people and evidence and belief are swayed by mere supposition. I did not know even vaguely the Meier Materials. So when he saw one fly onto the the highway behind our Van, nice clear twilight, beautiful day for sure, this being the height of summer and after of all things a Pentecostal meeting (rather boring old thing been there done that and yes my own religious experiences have changed completely, and I tell you why, that a person has too much influence on the outcome of even those experiences and a person with charisma effects the outcomes of the group, and of course to stay and attend and then leave is disheartening so I also don't 'get involved' in that group session/therapy for that reason, our information is just too powerful our experiences too vast and yet we are luminous beings with and end and beginning and Meier is a man and a Prophet of the Book), but as we left to go back to where we were visiting, yes a ship came from one side and stopped in the middle of the highway and they crossed to the other side, and I made him draw a picture when we got back home. But I performed only two queries (all I had to do), the first in the small town the next day, and merely asked if people were seeing strange things around there, and immediately was given a response in the small coffee shop/store, and even that yes UFO's were real and not just that but that someone had seen lights on the edge of his acreage the night before, just hovering there he said. I felt like an X-file examiner. The second was as we were filling up with gas in Dauphin, Manitoba, and I asked the attendant outrightly about the UFO thing. He told me (and this is only two people, one hundred percent agreement) that yes there were sightings happening around there, and that a police officer and other witnesses had seen these ships and the officer saw one go under a bridge, perform a loop right under through the undercarriage of a bridge. I'm betting now laughing that only the non-humanoid have the ability to perform such rapid flight maneuvers, the Pleyaren are just too damn mild. We also had something following us on the way back, I wanted to stop, but the wife was just too adamant and it was raining, so we didn't pull over to attempt the corroboration or a more accurate visual, but something stayed stationary and parallel behind us for quit a while. I left here to her beliefs, because she was always scared, yet her very father claimed to have had very strange experiences as well. She still clings to her Christian religious beliefs to this day and I protect her position nowadays rather than defend it.
Even with the Pleyaren phenomenon, I will admit that my own contacts have kept me up both night and day at times in the last five years. Do not be alarmed or confused, but that even Billy Meier suffered both physical and mental exhaustion and then later, divorce, all caused from the tremendous pressure these beings can cause on the individual and as they state rather proudly and arrogantly, the reason they don't land on the White House lawn would be overwhelm by us. But perhaps a type of hatred might ensue as well, seeing their perfected forms and millenial life-spans really totally unlike ours. I will get to a description of their world from Meier's book, "And still they fly", shortly. Their little boy meets terrestrial human attitude is to me now just too thin a line for complete ET cultures and civilizations to gain a lasting and comprehensive view or understanding. Within those rings, we humans face tremendous pressures, reincarnic ones, hated ones (War and those murders do so much produce that) and there is certainly within me alot of very intense emotions that would kill to have the evidence here on the table, right now. But they claim to be along the Jmmanuel line, and so we must just wait as John's head is brought upon a platter, then winks perhaps, no easy matter, and then the rest of history is of the same matter as well, even to the present day, and the Billy Meier story and his lose of life and limb, who can stand to read it without a snicker somehow, not an easy matter either here yet that metaphysical line must be some form of adapatation like the pyramid sources if you must and the (for instance the Mexican ones) why the doped material (really mica) is in-between the 'steps'.
How do the Pleiadians live? Apparently very close to the 'Creation' sources and even towards building their vehicles even and more for sure, but what about the others and their histories and planets? They have been without War on their Planets throughout Earth's history, for at least fifty thousand years, 50,000, and they have no need for work any more than a few hours a day (1 or 2 they agree or sympathize that we overwork ourselves at 8 to more a day) to till the soil and perform some type of manual labour and give a portion for the rest of their time which is quite structured, like a coffee shop perhaps. They have robotics and robots that perform most of the other laborious tasks that are done, and they all have flight vehicles that can hold up to five people, don't have our traffic systems or the need for roads and all our our environmental messes. They are peaceful and kind and almost unassuming, the only difference is their longevity and earlobes (those darn ears have evolved) and really you will get quite a lot out of the book, even the Evolutionary rate of our evolution between the mental and spiritual quotients, to the letter. Their Federation Members meetings are in the Andromeda Galaxy (our DERN one not their DAL one), and ours as a whole and studied has less life than the planets within their Universe for one. They are very proud about themselves and look upon themselves, somehow (sarcasm) as our grandparents and overlords or god-like (and considered Scientology lately, have read that charged that, so on, costs alot) figures that really try to demand alot of our attention and respect, and even seem jealous about the relationship between us and them if you will. They have cured almost every disease except the common cold, can cure broken limbs and the like, just like a Star Trek episode and yet we must really try very hard to find our past lives here on Earth, no joke at all a lasting criticism of the Creation Law from my opinion. They fall in love like we will do, a very weak term, for what is that but protection and warmth and the like, nuturing and that thing of constant dependency perhaps to our offspring and parents (though we have so many and forget them all) and please grow up from that Term. They will explain the concepts of null-time, the size of the Universe, the types of ships they have, their social relationships (yes allow divorce and multiple marriages, Quetzal is 6'4", and has four wives, excluding the little Semjase, a little arrogant, but hey, she is the Kings daughter, the Ptaah). They are not at War, but other beings are, other than Earth that is and I do not hold that against them as most would. Look at Earth History, really look and learn, would we not try the same maneuvers that the Sirians have tried on Billy? Probably so, and with that, yes the Earth govermental agencies have also tried to pull the fast one and have him eliminated (but cannot) and I won't point fingers at those nations, my fingers probably come back missing. They have also tried to use mind control and remote viewing capabilities on Meier, and the alter line of the Plejaren, those aged Lyrians (also humanoid just like us again and also with us in emotional sentiment hence the danger, but I find it intriguing as well if they are equal that way and then some) have tried a few other things to hinder the work done here. It makes me laugh in a macabre sort of way, that was the 20th Century, saw more violence and betrayal and saboutage, and spying and at times outright sorcery tried than any age of Earth and test that phat. Also more lies and tunneled and carved out subterfuge than anyone has ever seen as well, even with the US, sarcasm you microbes of your state then you bastards of our civilization, seeing I'm over it, you get over it as well, and how are those immense underground vaults, elevators and systems doing then, working with Sirian governmental jerks, and those wierd encounters, must be cumbersome you mib people, but shirts and ties as always, and please don't get so sentimental you bloody Americans, or for that matter the Billy Meier fanatics of sorts. Could the Greys easily escape the mess we Earthlings are in and take form within either the bio-androids or just switch bodily forms escaping our premature death? Some believers think that this is a possibility, and we are certainly not told everything even from the Meier source, for sure, but are told exclusively (Billy was given the exclusive) what the Henochians are then capable of, (of course spiritual out-of-body and physical transfer) have done and of course our relating to our Earth heritage the OM and the Henoch Prophecies as well as the Giza Pyramids and Earth catastrophes. Other simple items still deserve repair and study, like the forms of the early Pyramids and the Sphinx and of course their age is given away as tens and a hundred thousand years all told.
They have also stated that they have conquered Time and can even relive and hour if you want, and further to that, they can meet form different time segments and places and meet in one place even. Maybe that is why Billy cannot be killed, who knows. So I gave away the candy store, so what? Who will know all of the material of Meiers in the years to come, who knows really? The moon was captured only 20 million years ago, Venus came from Uranus (a study wanting here) and the Solar system is now looking exactly (well almost, check out the newest National Geographic, for a new solar system of planets and dwarf planets, surprised for christmas) like Meier's does in that book. Along with that and the damned Venus maneuver after being sent this way by the destroyer comet, was only a few tens of thousands of years ago, miniscule in our astronomical timeline it settled into it orbit and had arrived with its orbital wierdness (along with Uranus head tilt) after that event. Some questions arise of course, for me, for one, how did such a rocky body planetoid arrive at Uranus in the first place, and so on? Shut up, what's that, more of course, the Melona planet, our old Lemurian continent not one but a planet, it's destruction (within our solar system that is) and reminants and adonids. There are many items to be questioned and reviewed but that is taking the fun away and very few even attempt to do it. There is already life within the oceans of Europa, old life forms and fossils on Mars, plus supposed old monuments somewhere (is it really the Cydonia region for sure) we can only speculate from our viewpoint. Those ancestors tried successfully to re-engineer themselves for thousands of years lifespans. We are also told, most importantly that some of the current modern crop-circles forms are over our heads and are exactly from the future! Along with the other items and the millions upon millions of other races in the known Universes, and so on and so on. Overwhelm to most Earth individuals who really dare to stand by it.
They also talk about our creation and reincarnation from lifetime to lifetime and of course that there are other Universes in existance. This all sounds very groovy (modern term still) almost like we need a backdrop of Valhalla to boot to you know the led blimp again to drop out of the skies for us. What else? They meet in the Andromeda Galaxy for the Federation meetings, the contact notes state the federation is 50 million light-years in circumference and has a three dimensional viewpoint (wow) but beyond that check out the newest contact note posted here, about Kenneth Arnold (the very start of the actual UFO/saucer thing) and Betty and Barney Hill, and all of that. Billy Meier is an iconaclast, he destroys old pictures and views of the universe, for sure. They have taken (now on this forum are hardliners, beware) stances that almost everyone but Meier is a true contact, again and again, how farcical to me. Even our Whitely Strieber is on the block at times for fraudulent and fictious behaviour, yet millions of species of divergent evolutionary paths do exist for sure if at all within all of those, some very primitive still, some like plants and dinosaurs on Earth. Don't get mad though, like me get even, keep the channel open, for only Billy is the true billy goat of theirs, all others are thankfully taking up the slack and are not prophets and have interesting stories to boot that are enlightening with the wait for updates and the walk in the wilderness thing. I choose at times not to just believe everything one man says, who would, it seemed like suicide to me as well in bearing it all away like they did. Poor us and me, even with the Pleyaren, I now prefer a back seat, their psyches are too overpowering if you must with all of this laden within, and I warn you to take it slowly and not just get sucked in like a huge fan in a building system sucking air to keep them alive and not just us, their are dependants, put it that way, baby. So tell me more friend if you must, but get the book, it cuts the crap and is a must to read for sure to put heads and tails on this coin we call the Pleiadians and the Billy Meier/Jmmanuel source, or sympathetic numbers like 62, year of conception, again for this Tuttle of mild manners. This is my opinion, I do not agree (what a term, factually who could, sympathetically who would, I am a child of the 20th century and that thing go figure, families and all), with all of the import that is supposed to be given to the Meier material, and let ours and your supermen of mind, body and psyche figure all of it out, a daunting task for sure, yet yours and mine, even like the Brooklyn Bridge Incident ring with a ring of truth so far, and that is quite far a reach, and why didn't it, unless nothing is being done except Billy Meier, or like final agreement within one article, or to a Rolling Stones song, spread your wings, hurt me and then fly like community related to truth body then and bouncing perhaps, on cannabis or from Canada, thank you! and here is criticism of our role in Afghanistan or Canada from Patterson (a real event in my, serendipity, for Ms. Patterson was the teacher who put me against the wall for two weeks when I was in grade something and my Dad was John this time crawling in the ditch to which, without a son (from the old) he is blind and whose failing presents a head upon a platter or an achilles hee, sisters Gayle and June and Peggy and Katherine mother dear, a better presentation, lucid and unafraid (and unpriveledged, author male,son and ten booms) mother, it came down to you, boom, boom, boom, boom, gold layer, boom, heavy layer, that controlling autonomous layer, boom, and taking over again, boom, boom, and where even Appollyon (French like Canada, half nature) is to the Egyptian/Hebrew source the Abbaddon (get there when you can) it seems like protocol and ancient, only by nature of oldness, and that typology and stretch (love is what, eros and then protect and so on, like being stretched between that which is and always protects, but in only certain circumstances, will always defend, and lends a hand within both friend and again, only agape typologies of the Christian form, Semjase deer) and not that we are hunting a certain type even, those formidible horns of Cerunius, and whose history and nature, even Calvin and Hobbes fame comes as no surprise that it seems anthropological and even hermeneutical and only a few things that will encapsulate like really any song by force even older, Nazerteth fame and the earlier the better and more god-like, thank you, and repeat the song then, or in battle, gentlemen, tomorrow some of you die, in the finger of fate then, for sure, *I'm afraid, I thought I was somewhat gay or loaf of bread or the work quotient of the day., then who the frequency were Billy Meier's Mother and Father and that legacy, please relate.
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Thank you firstly for not including spam, thank you for the video on Billy Meier (here) and yes we have had lots of those materials here on this site and it isn’t funny or productive to our research here, for this is what a forum is intended for, like an Apologetics forum, for sure. It can be draining or taxing upon the individual and I feel sorry for those who don’t have English and all the style of it as a Native language, and as a Canadian citizen, it has always been mine. The way to maintain focus is within the assimilation of the Meier materials for sure for me that is, and it continues to represent a very large and very pragmatic field, the best in the world in my opinion. Dreaming of future events is the meaning I assigned to certain states of mind, where you feel that something is coming for you to be involved with.
That state is what I include as the inner symbols and acts of the mind, which for me is the struggle to integrate in the fields that surround us and interact with us, in both the outer shell and almost right to the most inner mind states. I have studied Dr. Carl Jung and see his works as master pieces in their own times as well as for modern man. He was a psychologist, and even agreed with reincarnation and had a very pragmatic and verified case work to build onto it, a very needed affair still today. I agree with you honest identification with your own case and mine is definitely parallel to. I may have been taken aboard after the first experience, I don’t know, but the darndest thing happened immediately that night after it and it freaked me out. My two older female cousins came back from a party (We were living with them in a large house, eight kids in all), and as they walked in the door, the had third eyes stuck to their foreheads (it was around Halloween) and I was taken by the way it fit the feeling that I was having. No one else that night saw the vehicle, we had been playing hide and seek that night, and I was the one who standing in the driveway and counting down to find them all, finished and turned around to see this ship come over the large hill behind the house (the house was beneath a ridge) and as I’m yelling and screaming to see this thing, it is gone in about six seconds or less, but right over my head. I also remember getting the mumps after that to, but if that is related I don’t know, just a that when I got older, the pieces fit into place. But all through my life I was constantly in science and became a technologist in electronics, have been for over fifteen years of professional life (and am now studying to change careers towards an electrician, more work, outdoors, instead of the labs all of mine were spent within, the office) so I have been blessed not to be a total idiot, though all of us have the fool within us, I suppose. Some get constantly into drugs, some get into alcohol and blow smoke on society, and we all battle the stresses and strains of life and that is what modern North American culture is about, even the present Wars have something to do with this stress, it is a cyclical argument of cultural variety.
That is why I feel the Pleyaren message so important. Their psyches are much more like ours than those proverbial twilight meeting Beings, and much more up front, technological and way more socially bound than the Others appear to be that as a slip, I mean their writings, humorously. But I have had post experience experiences and psychic contact even with the Greys and they are like other races, kind of funny creatures really but quite capable of understand the times and the environment we live with and their sympathy’s once felt are understood as part of the marks I talked out, the psychic marks that mankind has the hardest part with. Yes we are spiritual and go to church and the like, but we become afraid once the net is opened the full extent and the fish we catch are really part of the flora and fauna if you will of the universe, with all kinds of contents and intentions and power struggles for sure. That the energy-body can be either an egg or really look exactly like a small pyramid was something that one of my mentors mentioned as really being unfathomobile, no one knows why the energy-body is in this exact fashion at times of seeing, but that architecture is really built into us and other beings have hit upon it in ancient times and we the Pleyaren has stated that All Pyramids were made with the intention of honoring the nature contractual energies of the universal Web it you might. Pyramids, built of stone mind you, will mummify energy, while conducting ones will rarify it and that is in the contact notes, don’t sit under unconducting pyramid sources, or you will receive a deader, much lower type of energy.
The Pleyaren also then describe two types of contractual energy, and both are composed of mental and spiritual energy types those markers, both with individual and distinct quotients of Evolutionary Creative Design. That human sexuality is included in the real beauty of that affair is also one of both concern and trust, I believe. Most contactees of the higher energies also get turned-on in very real ways, and really I am now a better confirmed bachelor and really enjoying it, it is so easy to get involved with someone, but the real beauty of even that maneuver is to get close to someone we don’t know, female that is, and then like perform a reading on them, and their karma for me is the first one to stick out. Some have even a combination of the anima and animus from previous incarnations as to be seen in some cases. That Mankind has had problems with the intense emotions and energies of the dorsal Eros type of love (and still like the Christian breakdown, of filial and agape) that date back to the early Bible period and that story as well, all the way to and from David to and towards the Christ. I do like Christian minsters for the most part, the ones I have met are of open, but the funniest or really weirdest part is that almost every Christian ministers sons or daughter goes astray, does it with a gusto apart from others, or just as bad, and I have also met plenty of them, it really is spiritual warefare in many cases for sure, and aliens usually don’t fit all that easily into the center forum of those places and religious beliefs, and so I prefer Buddhism to that in many cases, and have had equal experiences to the flaunted Christian ones as well. We are sentiment luminous beings with powers of though and the creative source that is unfathomobile for sure, but I do believe that the Meier material does substantiate a far amount of Biblical dross for sure. I agree with you that there still does seem to the the good alien encounters from the bad ones, but even in these times it is somewhat a matter of opinion.
For as a whole study it is already at a study level of advanced cultures and races, and more you can hold your head up, and not become afraid at the meetings, the stronger and more intelligent you will become. For me it is weird, because, there are now worlds upon worlds for us to wrap our imaginations around, and we require a supreme amount of imagination and stamina to get by the lose ends of both our fabric and fabric of the universes, which are made for a more open areana of contacts, and I believe we are already on the cutting edge of those affairs as well, to the Biblical proportions for sure. We are constantly warned about the wormwood in the forest, and the alter-Lyrians are proudly still part of the mix. But here is wisdom, our own Earth has been at War for Millenium and so have other beings, with false or more correctly secretive maneuvers about who they are the Totalitarian worlds (or Toltecian or Sci-Fi if you might) they grew up upon and live with and the fights and struggles they all battle with, so we aren’t completely sane if we don’t properly call it both a battle and a field of advanced study, and Exopolotics is definitely a needed cultural segment on our table now, especially for the masses, for no one can really look up and say, yep the Universe as we know it has changed, Earth has been visited and continues to be visited by advanced races and influenced by their members, and trying to substantiate that has correctly been part of the use of this forum, and especially the Meier materials and seeing Billy as a christ-child of sorts, seeing that being is like seeing the inner man and very real seeing to boot. You must get his book to really start to be an active member, it is a tremendous amount of very good material and then way deeper arguments and substantiations of your own as well.
Lastly and new to the argument, on another now modern and now substantiated level, we can now also study the crop-circle phenomenon and really substantiate the physical energy level requirements of that field as well, pun intended, and I have also done that for years as well, well before Meier substantiated the fact that some were very advanced forms of agreement as well if you can argue it through in germanic intent. The beamships, their archetecture and form and maneuvers, sounds and the like are also another individual study in my opinion as well, and so on. Also read the other topics I just posted, they are very needed I believe, but unlike you, my friend, there really isn't that much advanced argument going on around that; it is mostly around our individual battles at least then, just the gypsies in the field friend, there are friends indeed within the ring.
happy holidays and thanks for all the great responses so far, I have so much to speak to you about, I do not know where to begin, you have addressed so many things and your inteligence seems to be more educated than my own, I am hoping at this point maybe I can get a phone or skype conversation with you that we can record if you are interested.
I am setting up speech to text transcripting software soon and it will ease the typing for me and allow me to natuarally flow what I am trying to say, I hope, and I will use it to respond to you in these threads soon as well. at this point I have so much to say but I am not skilled enough to type as quickly as I wish I could. I do think I need to read the book and I am going to purchase it very soon (christmas money!!), I may have a copy in email somewhere that I over-looked but either way i will have a copy very soon, and the billy meier video I posted on my site is very insightful and the messages come across clear for me by the presenter.
I copied and pasted your response in a word processor so I can break it down and respond, be on the look out for them, hopefully I respond by days end today.
I was reading the WIKI site on billy meier, and there is a section called - Exposure of fraudulent "contactees", after reading it and if that is the case, I would like to know for myself if I am a fraud, I would like the pledians to point out whether I am a fraud or not. I am not trying to sound negative, but I am exploring my own story, myself, so perhaps the pleidians will shed some light for me, or perhaps they already speak of me and I do not know it yet.
who knows, if anyone can dig that up, it would be cool.
if you read further, they say anyone who claimed to be contacted by plajerans is a liar, I do not, anywhere, claim to be contacted by the plejarens, so who's head needs to be fixed? sounds like your the mental problem, take your opinion and kiss off, you dont like the posts, then do not read them.
step away, your second post and trying to insult me? please go heckle someone else fool.
BTW, do you believe evrything you read blindly?
everything happens for a reason.
hey zumpo, sorry I came across aggressive, I just do not like when I feel I am being addressed with condescendtion, my advise is read it twice before you give an opinion. I am not here to argue or insult people, just here to do my part as part of this community. this is not a circus show to me, I spent many night awake in fear because of this stuff, so I can not help take it seriously sometimes. but I must be more wise and recognize this is something to expect.
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