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hi Helen

Adrian is a liar and his photos are a fraud

also whenever you read anything about channeling (the pleiadans or anything else) you can be almost 100% sure that it is a fraud (there are some real mediums in this world but they never appear in public, true contactees are extremely rare and usually don't open their mouths for various reasons)

take care
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Thank you Helen for alerting me to this interesting looking book which can even be accessed as a free e-book. I don't look at anything as all truth or all lie anymore. Like the Bible has been completely tampered with but there are some humdinger truth things there. [though I do see religion as having caused more trouble worldwide as well as with individuals being manipulated to hate and avoid pondering stuff] There must be some reason that the book was translated into several languages and given away free if need be. Forum folks, let's not get all frowny and pugilistic. Diane


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Sorry to say no, but that I am also checking out some strange material out on this unusual forum about time travel  and a man named John Titor, wierd and wonderful stuff, even a schematic diagram of a 288,000 coulomb unit producing supposed working microsinglularities.  I just happened to be working on a z-pinch fusion report and it is already supported by mathematical fact that less charge than that could deliver a nuclear fusion reaction, so go figure the rest in somewhere into your own science fiction, that is so far.  Good luck with yours 

 

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The people must have common sense, maybe the pleiadeans and their confederation are exigent when contact peoples of earth, but the others confederations may contact peoples here on earth more openly.

 

I had 2 contact with Nordic type aliens and maybe their where not pleiadean.

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Aliens are not "ALiens" They are in fact demons, sent by god as the GREAT DELUSION mentioned in the bible. this way god can find his true believers, the people who believe Jesus died For ALL our sins and that GOD created us all. We did NOT Evlolve from other beings. We were only on this earth for 6005 years.

 

 The goverment is hiding the fact that they know about ufo technology. infact, man has known since the early 1900's. Do your selves a favor and please read the bible. Save your selves from Gods Wrath. The "aliens" abduct people because the goverment agreed to swap technology for humans to do experiments on and creat crossbreeds. it has been said that america has underground bases which house these Ufo's and aliens and even tied up "Missing" humans. the goverment is a pack of lies who doesnt want Us to have this technology because it will kill the oil companies. Man has become evil to the point that he's developed a secret weapon called HAARP which controls the weather, can creat hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, and even tidal waves. Google HAARP. also google haunebu. There is so much you people dont know. Just research the New world order that the demons are helping the gov to push. Once that comes, the devil him self will show in the from of an alien and say hes god, leading most of man to actually worship the devil. theres too much to explain. but research everything. you'll be quite shocked when you realize how much sense it makes..

 

        I will end it here and beg you people again..save your selves. Read the bible, understand it, pray to god, accept jesus's gift to all of us, the ability to become born again, which is the only way into heaven and eternal life. jesus died for all our sins. let god know you are thankful for his sacrifice as he did it so noone else would ever have to... let him know you want to let jesus in your heart. but you must truely believe this with your heart, not your mind. dont thank me, thank jesus, im just a messenger..i would like to see as many people saved, you dont have to be baptised, just know and love god and jesus.  dont thank me thank jesus, im just a messenger..i would like to see as many people saved. god will never let his true believers down. Please take my advice and God bless you all

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Originally Posted by False_Gods

Aliens are not "ALiens" They are in fact demons, sent by god as the GREAT DELUSION mentioned in the bible. this way god can find his true believers, the people who believe Jesus died For ALL our sins and that GOD created us all. We did NOT Evlolve from other beings. We were only on this earth for 6005 years.

 

 The goverment is hiding the fact that they know about ufo technology. infact, man has known since the early 1900's. Do your selves a favor and please read the bible. Save your selves from Gods Wrath. The "aliens" abduct people because the goverment agreed to swap technology for humans to do experiments on and creat crossbreeds. it has been said that america has underground bases which house these Ufo's and aliens and even tied up "Missing" humans. the goverment is a pack of lies who doesnt want Us to have this technology because it will kill the oil companies. Man has become evil to the point that he's developed a secret weapon called HAARP which controls the weather, can creat hurricanes, earthquakes, floods, and even tidal waves. Google HAARP. also google haunebu. There is so much you people dont know. Just research the New world order that the demons are helping the gov to push. Once that comes, the devil him self will show in the from of an alien and say hes god, leading most of man to actually worship the devil. theres too much to explain. but research everything. you'll be quite shocked when you realize how much sense it makes..

 

        I will end it here and beg you people again..save your selves. Read the bible, understand it, pray to god, accept jesus's gift to all of us, the ability to become born again, which is the only way into heaven and eternal life. jesus died for all our sins. let god know you are thankful for his sacrifice as he did it so noone else would ever have to... let him know you want to let jesus in your heart. but you must truely believe this with your heart, not your mind. dont thank me, thank jesus, im just a messenger..i would like to see as many people saved, you dont have to be baptised, just know and love god and jesus.  dont thank me thank jesus, im just a messenger..i would like to see as many people saved. god will never let his true believers down. Please take my advice and God bless you all

 

Thanks for your genuine concern there False gods, but thats all just nonsense your speaking there. Here, let me give you one example - The devil and hell don't exist.  If god is infinite and everywhere, then he must have the devil and hell inside of him. Its like mathematics, in that once the error or problem is found, it would cease to exist. 

 

Also the bible is a book that was written 100 years after the death of this so called jesus christ and it was written by the perception of man from 2000 years ago too. Information changes and gets twisted around too as information gets handed down through any number of people. There were also lots of false storytellers in those days too. The bible is also tampered with too, to suit lots of religions. For these reasons, nobody should ever take the bible litererally in anything it ever says anywhere.

 

I suggest that you should logically look at how much sense there is in everything you just said there False gods.

 

phil

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Phil, we ask that you don't apply common sense or facts in your arguement.  That's not appreciated in the religious community

 

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Originally Posted by False_Gods

Aliens are not "ALiens" They are in fact demons, sent by god as the GREAT DELUSION mentioned in the bible.

 

 

        I will end it here and beg you people again..save your selves. Read the bible, understand it, pray to god, accept jesus's gift to all of us, the ability to become born again, which is the only way into heaven and eternal life. jesus died for all our sins. let god know you are thankful for his sacrifice as he did it so noone else would ever have to... let him know you want to let jesus in your heart. but you must truely believe this with your heart, not your mind. dont thank me, thank jesus, im just a messenger..i would like to see as many people saved, you dont have to be baptised, just know and love god and jesus.  dont thank me thank jesus, im just a messenger..i would like to see as many people saved. god will never let his true believers down. Please take my advice and God bless you all

i shouldn't be saying this but i will anyway. Everything you said there just makes me laugh. lol

 

phil

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Hey false-gods, are you Jeovah's witness?

 

That method of your "god" of sending the evil and his demons to the earth is a contradiction of the powers of your "god".

If your "god" is all powerful why hi has the necessity to send the evil to the earth so that he can see who believes in him or not?

 

Your bible say that hi know the mind of the peoples, if he know the mind of the peoples he has not necessity of doing that

 

I don't understand why he has to do that bizarre action? Or he is so sadistic that hi enjoy lying to peoples only to punish them when they sin?

 

If hi don't like that we sin, why he launch the evil to us to make us sin, and when we sin he become angry against us? This god have mental problems or is a son of the bi....h.

 

WAKE UP TO THE REALITY!!!!

All those actions of your god denotes a very low level of espiritual evolution of your god. We can say that he show a human behavior, a human behavior of a degenerate tyrant.

 

And if I go to the fire lake for this words, then I will buy my sulfur soap to take a shower beside Belzebu.

 

 

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hey barbarotico,  I bet you are the same sort of person like me?  I bet you just can't stand hearing how all these low IQ religious people go around preaching their religious crap to everybody. They honestly believe that a book (bible) which has been tampered with so many times thats its absolutely full of contradictions now can give them all the big answers of the universe as well as also giving them the meaning of life too. Its their choice what nonsense or crap they want to believe in, but if its one thing that I just can't stand is when these type of low IQ religious freaks have to go around proffessing their stupid hairy fairy religious beliefs to the rest of the world. And I just can't stand the way they have to make out to everyone like as if they are totally right and everyone else is wrong without question. I really don't understand it why they have to say it like as if they absolutely know that everything they say is totally true. Final!! no ifs, no buts, and everyone else is just wrong! And whats more is how they are so stupid that they can't even see how ridiculous or stupid any of the garbage that they are proffessing to the rest of the world really is.  They cheese me right off when these type of people go around doing that and I have to hear and put up with them because I consider it as being rude and an insult when they come doing that to me because of how they have to treat me and everyone else like as if we are all fools as well as also how they all have got no respect whatsoever for everyone else's personal beliefs too. How would they like it if I went down to their sunday church and professed to everyone there how their religion is all crap  and then proffessed my ufo beliefs as being the final truth to them there? Also how would they like it if I acted like as if I know that I am totally right and that they are all wrong in everything that i say too?  They'd tell me to get lost wouldn't they? They most certainly would tell me to get lost if I done that and I don't see that theres anything wrong with me telling them to get lost when they come preaching their stupid religious beliefs and crap to me here.  Other then that, I got nothing against them.

 

phil

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The worst of religions is that the religions remove the responsibility from the earth peoples, a society without responsibility is a criminal and evil society.

How many crimes has being committed in the name of god?

The inquisition, the Islamic terrorism among others.

 

When the peoples believes that a god will come down to fix their society, those peoples simply sit down eating pop cons to see passively how their world is destroyed in front of their nose.

 

The religions are like the HIV Virus that disable the society to combat the evil's source.

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barbarotico, read my above post again because i edited it after you posted your post above in.

 

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The worst of religions is that the religions remove the responsibility from the earth peoples, a society without responsibility is a criminal and evil society.

How many crimes has being committed in the name of god?

The inquisition, the Islamic terrorism among others.

 

When the peoples believes that a god will come down to fix their society, those peoples simply sit down eating pop cons to see passively how their world is destroyed in front of their nose.

 

The religions are like the HIV Virus that disable the society to combat the evil's source.

 

I couldn't agree more with everything you said here barborotico. So true.

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Phil, I think you are making a grave error thinking that religious people are not intelligent.  There are physicists that are religious and unless the universities have completely failed, they are very bright.  Perhaps people turn to the religions out of fear, the unknown.  By the time they hear something of the truth, their mind is almost hardwired with religious pretexts and of course they fear the hell that has been promised so a new understanding is highly unlikely.  Remember, WE are the outsiders in a religious world.  Spirituality is a fact, but the religions have distorted the truth so far as it no longer resembles anything useful in its entirety.  When evidence is brought-up (i.e. EVP, apparitions on tape, etc) it's all blamed on the devil.  When something spiritually good happens (i.e. a spirit physically saves someone) to another religion it is blamed on the devil and only causes them to believe stronger. 

 

Anyway, the religious are not weak minded but they are misled.

 

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out there,

 

I don't deny what you say there about some religious people's intelligence being high, but I really didn't mean it like i was saying it. I mean like I wish like they would all see through that crap coz only a fool would believe in all that hairy fairy holy smoly religious crap.

 

 

phil 

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