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Hi can someone here tell me if theres any truth on this topic thats circulating the net at the moment? Is it true or is it all nonsense and we are just all at the same level?

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Hi phil

i did a little search on this fifth dimensional thing,
and i only found info that has to do in one or another way with religions (especially with hunduism and christianism) and new age garbage (chirst consciousness, ascended masters, pleiadans (after Billy meier became famous many people around the world began to distort his messages and even to write their own imaginary garbage about inexistant "pleiadans"), so i think this is just pure nonsense, indeed like plejarens have said (the REAL ones that are in contact with Billy)there are innumerable dimensions in the human being (not two, three or five) and in the universe but not like those charlatans describe them

about "dimensional beings" (beings that come from other dimensions), its supposed that they really exist but they do not contact human beings of earth, they are highly advanced (even more than plejarens) and travel in non physical ships (made of energy)

here i post a photo taken by Billy of a pure energy craft(the green one)

and a photo of a ship that seems to be bio-organic taken by Carlos Diaz which according to plejarens really saw the ships and took some real photos, but also began to lie and create stories of things that never happened just to make money and become famous
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thx for replying 00,

I didn't mean it like on another demension, I was meaning how ppl say that enlightened ppl operate at 5th density/demensional. Supposedly a lot of ppl say that a third of the population or something like that are on 5th level at the moment, and the rest are on 3rd. Do you know if theres any truth in that? 
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Hi can someone here tell me if theres any truth on this topic thats circulating the net at the moment? Is it true or is it all nonsense and we are just all at the same level?

thx

Hi Phil ~

There is no way to empirically prove it one way or the other, unless you have access to the knowledge that could do so. You'll get a different answer, depending on who you ask. But if we're going to look at what is said about dimensions in the Meier material, I could tell you a little about that.

According to the information, there exist countless space-and-time dimensions or configurations in our universe, which might be equated to frequencies on a radio dial. Each dimension contains different arrangements of stars, planets, humans, etc.--in effect, completely different universes. Human beings themselves do not exist in a fourth or fifth dimension, etc. because there are no such dimensions. Humans within a single space-and-time dimension can be of coarser or finer composition depending on their level of evolution, but this is not related to dimensions. This is more related to vibrations and physical structure, where higher-evolved entities have much higher or finer vibrational structure than lower-evolved beings. Coarse matter is essentially fine matter (spirit energy) slowed down to a point that it manifests into what we know as physical/material objects.

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thx marc, I should have mentioned that i meant at consciousness level as described here below -


"They are also able to access what may be termed the Fourth and Fifth Dimensions of Consciousness, while most humans have access only to the Third and Fourth."
http://www.starchild.co.za/what.html

do u know if this is true or is it that we all just operate at the same level of consciousness?
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hey there phil I know a lot about the dimensions I will tell you. Now I think fourth and fifthe dimension are very real cause they are right in front of our faces (length width height ) the fourth one known as trength is impossible to understand. As would be a 2D being imagining a 3D one. But the conciouness is only limited by the person at those matters. If we were at the fourth dimension everyones consiousness would grow but some more that others.. understand? would you like me to talk more on this subject? I have lots of interesting points

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hey there gecko, heck yes, i would very much like to hear more about this topic.

also do you have anything (links, eg) about anything like what billy meier or the plejarens might have said about this topic too?

thx greatly
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Hi. The way I understand it is that extradimensions are not so much about length, width, height, and time so much as frequency vibrations or different levels of consciousness. The word "density" is sometimes used and I think this is apt because the higher density beings really have more detail/wisdom to them. If you viewed a fully 5D human he would look like a regular guy only more radiant and detailed. Think the way Jesus appeared to his disciples when he was transfigured.

Mathematics and physics are based in 3D knowledge. The idea that you can have a number of mutual perpendicular axes is purely a mathematical concept, euclidian n-space for example. But I reiterate, mathematical knowledge is strictly a human/3D concept. If these 5D beings have math it is nothing like the math that we know.

I do think there is some evidence that higher density beings are making contact with people who are ready to develop their 5D bodies. Of course there are a lot of charlatans (channels for example) who really have no first hand experience with 5D. Personal experience trumps anything you read on the web.

If you are lucky enough to meet a 5D being try being open and honest with him. Ask him questions. He probably has revealed himself to you for a reason. There is some concern that there are malevolent beings out there who simply want to toy with us or use us in some way but I don't think we need to get paranoid. These tricksters usually influence us by the power of suggestion and rarely fully manifest themselves as solid material beings. Becareful when you use drugs, they make you volunerable to these kinds of psychic attacks. (Attack really isn't the right word, more like influences)

I would say if you are interested in actually meeting any 5D beings or developing your own 5D body try to go somewhere where the energy is good and people are genuinely interested in developing themselves this way. Ashland, OR was a good place to be in winter 2004 but I have no idea if there is still any extradimensional activity going on their now. Stay away from places where people are mostly concerned with making money and gaining political power.

Again I want to reiterate. 5D beings can act as a kind of spirit guide to you (that is without manifesting themselves physical) but ultimately their goal is to make contact with people who are ready. They can guide you to the right place and help you discover things about yourself but they won't bother you if the time is not right for you to ascend.

Also, ascending is a very spiritually taxing task. If you aren't careful you can open yourself up to a lot of negative influences and end up getting paranoid or worse. (but you won't die no matter how much you think you will at the time)

Again, don't get caught up in your own thoughts and ideas. This is a real pitfall. If a 5D being wants to help you he will make contact (and this means you will actually meet the guy walking down the street.) Normal people will just seem him as another guy but if you have the right kind of eyes you will notice the signs that he is not of this world.

Also, when you find a good place with good people try just talking to strangers (be friendly!) or looking at people who seem interesting. You'd be suprised how often you run into people who are into the same things and can help you on your journey. It is not uncommon that two or three people who need to meet will unconconsciously find each other. This happened to me personally. It is a very amazing experience. There is definately a kind of telepathy going on.

Ok, so that's enough for now. Good luck in your quest for 5D. And remember, if you get paranoid or freaked out remind yourself that nobody can physically hurt you and that most likely your paranoia is being caused by one of these tricksters who's just trying to get a rise out of you. (Humans are actually the most deadly beings on or around this planet at this time. Talk crazy to the wrong person and they'll call the cops! Seriously!)
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  Hey there phil.. sorry I dont have any of th links you asked for search google or whatever something might come up or someone here might give u some links.

 

  So about the dimensions... it is thought that the fourth dimension might even be a time dimension. Time is in the first dimension onlt, if it were to be in the second one you could go "left and right in time" i guess you would say. Now I know that makes no sense but like i said before it is impossible to really imagine without seeing it. People have said that a fourth dimensional being would just look like blobs of matter floating about ( you can almost thing of fourth dimension as no gravity in a way ) a fourth dimension being could perform bloodless surgery and go through and 3D barrier. If you picked up a 2D knot.. ( a loop of string ) it fall apart right? if a 4D being picked up a 3D knot it would fall apart in his hands.. wierd eh?

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