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Terrabiped

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Ok. All the photos and videos are rather impressive. So let's consider that it's in fact the real deal, It's all fine and indeed very exiting... but...

What bothers me about this whole deal is that instead of a contact with extraterrestrials for political or technological or any other end it has turned spiritual, ah, the magic word, and indeed a very fine line toward religion isn't it?
So this UFO thing is now a sect (www.figu.org).

Ok. Let's see:
If these extraterrestrials are so wise as they themselves and Mr. Meier proclaims why do they attack the established religions of earth.
You see, that is certainly not a very "wise" approach towards the explanation of their millenary ideology, much less a good corner stone to an ideological revolution on earth.
It sounds more like a bunch of "earthlings" trying to create a new establishment for themselves and recruit a few others along the way.


Attacking the true beliefs of most of the earth's population it's remarkably immature. It shows a very clear attitude issue and it's nowhere near the depiction of any kind of wisdom or genuine care for others. Actually their lack of wisdom shines brighter than their cluster of stars. So if that's the best they can do, thanks but I have a life to live.

The transcription of the conversations between Mr. Meier and these extraterrestrials does not denote an extraordinarily higher than average IQ either.

I beg your pardon but I don't see much of a difference here than with any other sect around. And being things as they are in this Earth of us, we don't need any more of those around, now do we?

How long will it be until they begin passing the poison laced Kool-Aid?
No offence, but there's nothing new under the sun.

If they had kept it on the photographs and videos and such, the world would have been deeply moved.

Cheers

JM Elizondo
Savio

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Hi JM

“So this UFO thing is now a sect (www.figu.org)”, could you please back up your comment?

“Attacking the true beliefs of most of the earth's population it's remarkably immature”

Why do we feel being attacked? Are we offended because of the words of truth? Or are we being wrongly judged?

Why believe? We have to believe because there is no solid proof; if it is really a fact, we do not have to believe at all.

Which are the true beliefs in this world? Using simple common sense we will prove to ourselves that there is no “true” beliefs, most believers are being misled or cheated:

It is common knowledge that most believers claimed that the God they believe in is the “Only True God”; say “if” Allah is the real only true God, then we can say that all religion believers except Muslims are being misled or cheated.

We now know that there is no true beliefs in this world, at the most, there may be just only one true belief. Which one? Can anyone prove his/her belief? Without proof, this so-called “Only True God” is like castle in the sand.

It seems Billy is telling the truth regarding the religions we believe in, it is a kind of wisdom or genuine care by telling us the direction.

If we are deeply moved by Billy’s photos and videos…etc, I would think that his message are worthy of further study and consideration.

Regards

Savio
MarkCampbell

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Bienvenidos , Pendejo !

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Terrabiped

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Very wise comment Mark!
What are you a priest in this thing?

Like I said a sect.
Have a nice day
MattHurley

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Originally Posted by Terrabiped
Ok. All the photos and videos are rather impressive. So let's consider that it's in fact the real deal, It's all fine and indeed very exiting... but...

What bothers me about this whole deal is that instead of a contact with extraterrestrials for political or technological or any other end it has turned spiritual, ah, the magic word, and indeed a very fine line toward religion isn't it?
So this UFO thing is now a sect (www.figu.org).

Inform us of what your definition of a sect then and then we can compare your definition to the FIGU

Ok. Let's see:
If these extraterrestrials are so wise as they themselves and Mr. Meier proclaims why do they attack the established religions of earth.

Haven't you noticed how many wars have been caused by religious differences?

You see, that is certainly not a very "wise" approach towards the explanation of their millenary ideology, much less a good corner stone to an ideological revolution on earth.
It sounds more like a bunch of "earthlings" trying to create a new establishment for themselves and recruit a few others along the way.


Attacking the true beliefs of most of the earth's population it's remarkably immature.

Are true beliefs fact?


It shows a very clear attitude issue and it's nowhere near the depiction of any kind of wisdom or genuine care for others.

Sometimes pointing out truths and facts can be painful
Actually their lack of wisdom shines brighter than their cluster of stars. So if that's the best they can do, thanks but I have a life to live.

The transcription of the conversations between Mr. Meier and these extraterrestrials does not denote an extraordinarily higher than average IQ either.

What are your qualifications to deduce an IQ from text? Maybe the texts are written in a manner that they can be accessible to all ,not just some pompous prat whose got his head up his arse

I beg your pardon but I don't see much of a difference here than with any other sect around. And being things as they are in this Earth of us, we don't need any more of those around, now do we?

You've contradicted yourself. You mentioned earlier that you didn't like the ETs attacking Earth's religions - make you mind up!

How long will it be until they begin passing the poison laced Kool-Aid?
No offence, but there's nothing new under the sun.

If they had kept it on the photographs and videos and such, the world would have been deeply moved.

How many photos are required? Meier took a 1000. Do you need another 1000 to be convinced?

Cheers

JM Elizondo
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"Ignorance is daring, and it is riding on a horse"

Terrabipind is basing his whole argument in shallow judgments of value like "immature" and "not wise". Like we all know, this is not exactly the mos effective way to evaluate a complex phenomena like the one presented by Mr. Meier.

What meier show us has to logical options: to be true or false.

To assume it is false, because of an automatic association with crazynes, deceit, (we are custumed to these things, wich is normal we react this way) would be to deny the high poitential of reality that it actually holds.

To accept that it's true, just because of the hunger of answers, and the desire to believe it, would be to blind ourselves to the possibility of a fraud.

We need to find a middle point of scepticism without denial, to investigate every aspect of Mr. Meier proclaims in order to issue an effective judgement.

I, personally believe, disregarding of proofs, etc. that Meier has a real thing on his hands. We must be careful anyways, not to mix real facts, with publicity and sensationalism...that its our task if we want to find truth.

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MarkCampbell

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Criticisms by such commentators mirror the same type of responses and attitudes that come from friends and co-workers , however modified by anonymity or close association . We can choose to engage in a play by play , which I have come to recognize as being very thoughtful and intelligent , however mostly ignored by the critics .

I have given general blanket statements to friends using analogies which may let the critics think on it by stimulating logic :

Someone who was trying to use the early penicillin might have been scoffed at by the townfolk who were dying in numbers by saying " Shut up already about the moldy bread , that's rediculous , we're dying here !" And as we all know now , moldy bread was the origin of the antibiotic . Someday it will be the same with the universal spiritual teachings and understanding . Until then , most are trying to rack up points in heaven by defending their blind faith , and I'm considered to be "rediculous" , and they cut me off , refuse to hear about it again . But they always have to have the last words with some 'lordly' comment and 'god bless' ....etc.

My previous response was honestly my view - such people will not be reasoned with , and if they were to be , it would be because they sought it out, and not because of brilliant debating . Just my observation , that's all , and of course it can't apply to every person and circumstance .

But they are welcome nevertheless .

Mark

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Terrabiped

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Oh God Mark that was beautiful !
MarkCampbell

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No te llores , mijo !
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MattHurley

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"ET" why don't you go and check out Meier personally for yourself like the people who have replied to you have.
You will then be in a better position to judge rather than making emotive remarks on this forum

Matt Hurley
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Hey ET , don't get too excited . It's only the internet , and I don't take offence at comments that come from behind a PC ( or a mac) . But just the same ET , " bienvenidos" .



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Youngstar7

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Greetings.

Wisdom comes by the understanding of an experience of that which one has knowledge of. Some of us lack the capacity to truly understand what it is we experience here on earth, therefore rendering us less wise than others. And if your are to truly gain any wisdom beyond your shell of earthbound complacency you must have an experience that is understood by you. In short, ridicule and speculation serve no true purpose. To add a hint of humor so that my posting doesn't accumulate any negative reaction as for I do not take myself so serious a should no one else.In the words of Jimmy Hendrix ."ARE YOU EXPERIENCED?" Jimmy rocks!!



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Barbarian216

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There are other ET's besides the benevolent Plejarens, some are bad. In your case, it could also be earth bound crafts made to look extra terrestial. Go to Billy Meier's website, he explains the alien "grey" types.
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Religions are the "vehicle" process that "stagnates" one's spiritual development by others to control human destination for their own greed and lust for power. The "creator overlords" who took the titles of "gods" and manipulated humans to serve their selfish needs because they violated the natural course of Creational laws.

These "overlords" of ancient Lyrians unnaturally increased their spiritual development through technology, but neglected their self perseverance survival abilities, thus were defenseless to aggressive entitles. They did not balance the negative and positive attributes of human development as in the Plejarens. Therefore they created other humans (earth humans) to protect them, which they successfully did.

However, they feared that one day these manipulated humans will become "aware" and overthrow these overlords. Thus they manipulated their DNA, activated the ageing gene M1/M2 to reduce his life span from 350-450 years to 100, and increased the aggressiveness and other properties. You must logically realize that allowing someone to live naturally in 350-450 years will exponentially increase his/her knowledge and spiritual development at least 4-5 times rather than limit it to 100 years!

So yes, proclaiming one as "god" and keeping that status requires drastic negative methods through religious doctrine that makes it impossible for humans to realize their real spiritual potential that goes way beyond the level of these so called "gods".


Read Billy Meier's Contact Note 251 for more detailed analysis of the whole episode of the inter relationships between various human races regarding "gods" and religions.

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